My question has been answered so do NOT post here anymore.I for some reason remembered SF games being the best fighters out there. I got SF Turbo Remix HD 2 with my Resident Evil 5 Elite Bundle. I played it quite a few times and it is total garbage, I've beat arcade mode and won a few online matches but I hate the game. The whole game revolves around character unbalances and who can be the cheapest.But I am a huge fan of fighting games (Tekken, Mortal Kombat, Virtua Fighter) and I was wonder, is Street Fighter 4 like Turbo HD Remix in gameplay? Are they like the same thing but with different graphics or is it very different? None of my friends have it, theres no demo, and its not in at the only store in town that rents games.Is Street Fighter IV like Turbo HD Remix ...
[QUOTE=''ColdP1zza'']I for some reason remembered SF games being the best fighters out there. I got SF Turbo Remix HD 2 with my Resident Evil 5 Elite Bundle. I played it quite a few times and it is total garbage, I've beat arcade mode and won a few online matches but I hate the game. The whole game revolves around character unbalances and who can be the cheapest.But I am a huge fan of fighting games (Tekken, Mortal Kombat, Virtua Fighter) and I was wonder, is Street Fighter 4 like Turbo HD Remix in gameplay? Are they like the same thing but with different graphics or is it very different? None of my friends have it, theres no demo, and its not in at the only store in town that rents games.[/QUOTE]
It is a LOT slower paced. Seriously. It is still pretty much about who can do the most hadokens and be the cheapest. Arcade mode is also hard as hell too. I bought it quite impulsively and regret buying it. I haven't played it since a few days after I got it.Is Street Fighter IV like Turbo HD Remix ...
I feel like you all are completely missing the strategy behind it. Seriosuly SF2 is a mind game, you have to learn to read what your opponent is going to do. When people use a ton of hadoukens it's a filler attack. You can't just run and jump at somebody who's Ken or Ryu or they'll use shoryuken to no end. Every character has combos that seem cheap but it only seems that way when the user is good most of the time and uses them effectively. That being said, E. Honda and Chun Li really are pretty cheap when they can end in their flurry attacks or whatever the hell they're called. Anyways on topic, SF4 is much much slower and is a lot more technical. In my opinion more balanced overall but the new characters suck for the most part.
[QUOTE=''bitemeslippy'']I feel like you all are completely missing the strategy behind it. Seriosuly SF2 is a mind game, you have to learn to read what your opponent is going to do. When people use a ton of hadoukens it's a filler attack. You can't just run and jump at somebody who's Ken or Ryu or they'll use shoryuken to no end. Every character has combos that seem cheap but it only seems that way when the user is good most of the time and uses them effectively. That being said, E. Honda and Chun Li really are pretty cheap when they can end in their flurry attacks or whatever the hell they're called. Anyways on topic, SF4 is much much slower and is a lot more technical. In my opinion more balanced overall but the new characters suck for the most part.[/QUOTE]
Not Abel or Crimson Viper. They're really good and solid additions. Also, guys who are good with Rufus can kick some butt. El Fuerte is considered the worst, but some guys can do really well with him.
And Street Fighter IV is the best fighting game this gen so far, and arguably the best fighting game ever made. You have to be a SF fan or a fighting fan to appreciate it. If you think you can just pick it up and ''get it'' right away, you're dead wrong because a game like this requires some dedication and some commitment to get the most out of it. For me, for instance, I'm not a beginner by any means but I still get my butt kicked. But the difference between someone like me and a player who just gives up is just that, I don't give up. I still love the game and still consider SFIV my favorite next-gen game so far.
True SF fans love it...but I can't tell you or decide for you whether you'll love it or not. It will depend. You just have to play it for yourself and see if you will or not.
I am a Street Fighter nut and I can say that both games are spectacular. It is true that they have their fair share of similarities. Many characters in each game are the same, many moves are the same, and the general feel of the games are similar as they are both part of the Street Fighter universe.However, each game's mechanics are quite different. There are a number of improvements to the overall formula that is reflected in Street Fighter IV. Both games have excellent ballance but they have a different feel between them. The fluidity of movement in SFIV is vastly superior to SSFIITHDR. There are also very different strategies involved in both games.I'm not saying one is better than the other. Both games are in my collection and hold a special place in my heart. Street Fighter IV is truly a next-gen fighter while Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix is a very welcome update of an already classic title. Online play in both games is spectacular and they are both hardcore fighters. Street Fighter IV may be a little more welcome to new comers than SSFIITHDR would be. There is a much more in-depth training mode with it and there are more characters. Also, a lot of fun unlockables are with the newer game. SSFIITHDR is more atuned to the hardcore of hardcore fighters. It was redone by hardcore fighters for hardcore fighters. It is much more cost effective at this point but there is more with SFIV so the value argument is a toss up.All things considered, you can't go wrong with either title. I recommend downloading the demo of SSFIITHDR to see if you think you can handle it. If it meets with your liking, then go ahead and get it because it's much cheaper. If, however, you are looking for the more current game and want to get the newest of the craze, Street Fighter IV is the way to go. Both games are incredible and I highly suggest getting both if you're a fan. Also, get a joystick or a 6-button controller. Playing with the standard 360 controller is terrible and you will get your ass handed to you in a fight against someone properly armed with the right controller.
^^ Yes. Street Fighter IV is more fine-tuned and vastly superior in playability. Plus it feels fresh and not a evolution but a true sequel because of all those extra features and improvements.
SSFII Turbo HD to me is more nostalgia than competitive play. Probably because guys here are really good and I can't compete, LOL! But I love the game because it's one of my favorite childhood games that is remade with beautiful new artwork.
So both to me feel like the ultimate gift for long time Street Fighter fans. This gen is awesome but SSFII Turbo HD and SFIV made this gen perhaps one of the best ever.
[QUOTE=''bitemeslippy'']I feel like you all are completely missing the strategy behind it. Seriosuly SF2 is a mind game, you have to learn to read what your opponent is going to do. When people use a ton of hadoukens it's a filler attack. You can't just run and jump at somebody who's Ken or Ryu or they'll use shoryuken to no end. Every character has combos that seem cheap but it only seems that way when the user is good most of the time and uses them effectively. That being said, E. Honda and Chun Li really are pretty cheap when they can end in their flurry attacks or whatever the hell they're called. Anyways on topic, SF4 is much much slower and is a lot more technical. In my opinion more balanced overall but the new characters suck for the most part.[/QUOTE]Rock Paper Scissors is also a strategy game, but that doesn't mean theres much skill to it. But I find that no matter what I do people keep using Hadoukens repeatedly. So I guess I'm not going to get this game if its not too different.
[QUOTE=''ColdP1zza''][QUOTE=''bitemeslippy'']
I feel like you all are completely missing the strategy behind it. Seriosuly SF2 is a mind game, you have to learn to read what your opponent is going to do. When people use a ton of hadoukens it's a filler attack. You can't just run and jump at somebody who's Ken or Ryu or they'll use shoryuken to no end. Every character has combos that seem cheap but it only seems that way when the user is good most of the time and uses them effectively. That being said, E. Honda and Chun Li really are pretty cheap when they can end in their flurry attacks or whatever the hell they're called. Anyways on topic, SF4 is much much slower and is a lot more technical. In my opinion more balanced overall but the new characters suck for the most part.
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Rock Paper Scissors is also a strategy game, but that doesn't mean theres much skill to it. But I find that no matter what I do people keep using Hadoukens repeatedly. So I guess I'm not going to get this game if its not too different.[/QUOTE]
It's a completely different game, but by looking at your posts you probably should not get the game. You would be one of those who say 'the game is too difficult therefore it is garbage'. If people keep using Hadoukens against you, you're probably not very skilled. Carefully timing jumps over hadoukens followed by a Fierce punch or kick will usually slow down the fireballs (coming for ken or ryu). And for you to even suggest that street fighter has strategy but no skill further shows me that you should not get this. You will get demolished online or by the cpu on easy and will want your money back. Save your money, time, and embarassment for Tekken
[QUOTE=''sourcerah''][QUOTE=''ColdP1zza''][QUOTE=''bitemeslippy''] I feel like you all are completely missing the strategy behind it. Seriosuly SF2 is a mind game, you have to learn to read what your opponent is going to do. When people use a ton of hadoukens it's a filler attack. You can't just run and jump at somebody who's Ken or Ryu or they'll use shoryuken to no end. Every character has combos that seem cheap but it only seems that way when the user is good most of the time and uses them effectively. That being said, E. Honda and Chun Li really are pretty cheap when they can end in their flurry attacks or whatever the hell they're called. Anyways on topic, SF4 is much much slower and is a lot more technical. In my opinion more balanced overall but the new characters suck for the most part. [/QUOTE] Rock Paper Scissors is also a strategy game, but that doesn't mean theres much skill to it. But I find that no matter what I do people keep using Hadoukens repeatedly. So I guess I'm not going to get this game if its not too different.[/QUOTE] It's a completely different game, but by looking at your posts you probably should not get the game. You would be one of those who say 'the game is too difficult therefore it is garbage'. If people keep using Hadoukens against you, you're probably not very skilled. Carefully timing jumps over hadoukens followed by a Fierce punch or kick will usually slow down the fireballs (coming for ken or ryu). And for you to even suggest that street fighter has strategy but no skill further shows me that you should not get this. You will get demolished online or by the cpu on easy and will want your money back. Save your money, time, and embarassment for Tekken[/QUOTE]You really don't have to be such a snob and a jerk about this. Just because someone doesn't like a game doesn't mean its because they are bad at it. Your just as bad as those Ninja Gaiden people. But I am going to buy Tekken 6 because I like the Tekken games.BTW, I don't think a game is very good when the objective is to work around its flaws and imbalances in order to win a fight.
[QUOTE=''ColdP1zza''][QUOTE=''sourcerah''][QUOTE=''ColdP1zza''] Rock Paper Scissors is also a strategy game, but that doesn't mean theres much skill to it. But I find that no matter what I do people keep using Hadoukens repeatedly. So I guess I'm not going to get this game if its not too different.[/QUOTE] It's a completely different game, but by looking at your posts you probably should not get the game. You would be one of those who say 'the game is too difficult therefore it is garbage'. If people keep using Hadoukens against you, you're probably not very skilled. Carefully timing jumps over hadoukens followed by a Fierce punch or kick will usually slow down the fireballs (coming for ken or ryu). And for you to even suggest that street fighter has strategy but no skill further shows me that you should not get this. You will get demolished online or by the cpu on easy and will want your money back. Save your money, time, and embarassment for Tekken[/QUOTE]You really don't have to be such a snob and a jerk about this. Just because someone doesn't like a game doesn't mean its because they are bad at it. Your just as bad as those Ninja Gaiden people. But I am going to buy Tekken 6 because I like the Tekken games.BTW, I don't think a game is very good when the objective is to work around its flaws and imbalances in order to win a fight.[/QUOTE]SFIV is not imbalanced. Only those who aren't good at SFIV would say something like that. And if you know how to play, you can work around Hadouken spammers. All you have to do is throw a projectile back or jump over it. Or do a EX projectile and it will go through theirs and hit them. Simple, right?I never lost to a Hadouken spammer. The only ones who are annoying is Akuma players because they do it in the air. Other than that, if you know how to play, it shouldn't be a problem.And I could criticise other fighting games as well. Tekken's a button smasher. Does that make me say it's imbalanced or hate the game? No. I love Tekken as well. But just because I suck at it doesn't make me say the game sucks nor does it mean it sucks. I really wish people who aren't good at SFIV stop saying the game sucks. The game doesn't suck it only feels that way because they aren't very good at it. But just because they're not good at SFIV does not mean the game sucks nor does it mean its imbalanced.
[QUOTE=''ColdP1zza''][QUOTE=''sourcerah''][QUOTE=''ColdP1zza'']
Rock Paper Scissors is also a strategy game, but that doesn't mean theres much skill to it. But I find that no matter what I do people keep using Hadoukens repeatedly. So I guess I'm not going to get this game if its not too different.
[/QUOTE] It's a completely different game, but by looking at your posts you probably should not get the game. You would be one of those who say 'the game is too difficult therefore it is garbage'. If people keep using Hadoukens against you, you're probably not very skilled. Carefully timing jumps over hadoukens followed by a Fierce punch or kick will usually slow down the fireballs (coming for ken or ryu). And for you to even suggest that street fighter has strategy but no skill further shows me that you should not get this. You will get demolished online or by the cpu on easy and will want your money back. Save your money, time, and embarassment for Tekken[/QUOTE]
You really don't have to be such a snob and a jerk about this. Just because someone doesn't like a game doesn't mean its because they are bad at it. Your just as bad as those Ninja Gaiden people. But I am going to buy Tekken 6 because I like the Tekken games.
BTW, I don't think a game is very good when the objective is to work around its flaws and imbalances in order to win a fight.[/QUOTE]
I never said that you didn't like sf4 because you were bad at it. In fact, you never played it so you nor I would know if you like it or not. The comments I made in my post were based on your post as well as all the other people I hear complaining about sf4. If you take a look at the threads about sf4 on this site, a good 99% of the time, people don't like the game because it's too difficult for them. You're complaints seem invalid to me b/c it is very easy to take out a hadouken spammer. Plus, someone made a comment about the strategy involved in sf4 and commented back with ''smart'' remark. Making it seem as if sf4 has no strategy. I don't understand how you compare rock, scissors, paper to sf4. That remark about RSP is why I started to talk about your skill level...
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[QUOTE=''sourcerah''] It's a completely different game, but by looking at your posts you probably should not get the game. You would be one of those who say 'the game is too difficult therefore it is garbage'. If people keep using Hadoukens against you, you're probably not very skilled. Carefully timing jumps over hadoukens followed by a Fierce punch or kick will usually slow down the fireballs (coming for ken or ryu). And for you to even suggest that street fighter has strategy but no skill further shows me that you should not get this. You will get demolished online or by the cpu on easy and will want your money back. Save your money, time, and embarassment for Tekken[/QUOTE]
You really don't have to be such a snob and a jerk about this. Just because someone doesn't like a game doesn't mean its because they are bad at it. Your just as bad as those Ninja Gaiden people. But I am going to buy Tekken 6 because I like the Tekken games.
BTW, I don't think a game is very good when the objective is to work around its flaws and imbalances in order to win a fight.
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SFIV is not imbalanced. Only those who aren't good at SFIV would say something like that. And if you know how to play, you can work around Hadouken spammers. All you have to do is throw a projectile back or jump over it. Or do a EX projectile and it will go through theirs and hit them. Simple, right?
I never lost to a Hadouken spammer. The only ones who are annoying is Akuma players because they do it in the air. Other than that, if you know how to play, it shouldn't be a problem.
And I could criticise other fighting games as well. Tekken's a button smasher. Does that make me say it's imbalanced or hate the game? No. I love Tekken as well. But just because I suck at it doesn't make me say the game sucks nor does it mean it sucks. I really wish people who aren't good at SFIV stop saying the game sucks. The game doesn't suck it only feels that way because they aren't very good at it. But just because they're not good at SFIV does not mean the game sucks nor does it mean its imbalanced.[/QUOTE]
you're exactly right, I agree with everything you have said ;)
oi, tell me which fighting game doesnt require strategy, skills and timing to win? street fighter is about patience, if ppl spamming hadoken at you and theres nothing you can do about it, that mean you need practice. because you saw it, you learn the pattern and eventually skillful ppl will kill the hadoken spammer? as for the akuma air hadoken, if you really want the easy way about it is use high jump char or fast char, basically any char is almost balance to any other char in that game even zangief the slowest s.o.b can beat akuma.so with all that said and other opinions about this game as well you should be able to make decisions. it is slower but that gives you more time to think strategically.
ill admit that there are probably more ways of being cheap in street fighter over every other way but you can never say that you cant do anything about it. if you are a truly skilled street fighter fan the spammers are probably the easiest people to beat because thats all they know how to do so its so easy to work around. just keep playing online and build a stradegy to every form of spam there is and you will just destroy them. then eventually you'll find an actual good fight and then the game is even more fun.
[QUOTE=''imlolmon'']if you are a truly skilled street fighter fan the spammers are probably the easiest people to beat because thats all they know how to do so its so easy to work around[/QUOTE]
Well said!!
I think there was really no point to release turbo remix in the first place, since Hyper Fighting is already on ARCADE with online play, and it came out so close to when 4 came out - and just from images andvideosyou can tell that 4 is vastly superior to it. I am still getting 4, just because I respect Capcom that much and think Street Fighter is a true classic, and also it's cool to see all of the original characters in the game along with Sakura, Dan and the other Alpha characters. The new fighters don't seem that bad, but some of them seem really out of place - especially the mexican wrestler guy and Crimson Viper.
Why did you come here and start telling me about what I can do to improve when what I was asking is, if I didn't like Turbo Remix, would I like SFIV? End of story, I don't want to hear why my opinion is wrong, how bad I am, or how it is better than the games I like. Now my question has been answered so please don't start this topic up again.
[QUOTE=''sourcerah''][QUOTE=''imlolmon'']
if you are a truly skilled street fighter fan the spammers are probably the easiest people to beat because thats all they know how to do so its so easy to work around[/QUOTE] Well said!![/QUOTE]Yeah, I have seen skilled SF players before and they don't mess around, every move counts for them, it becomes almost a game of strategy.
But I am one to talk, I am horrible at playing Street Fighter. *laughs* Still like it though.
It's actually pretty balanced. I see people playing with the unpopular characters %26 being successfull with them against the traditional characters w/c is not in the case in SF games before it. With the right strategy the game balances out very good maybe you're not just good with the game.
[QUOTE=''ColdP1zza'']Why did you come here and start telling me about what I can do to improve when what I was asking is, if I didn't like Turbo Remix, would I like SFIV? End of story, I don't want to hear why my opinion is wrong, how bad I am, or how it is better than the games I like. Now my question has been answered so please don't start this topic up again.[/QUOTE]But we did answer your question. We were saying things like SFIV is the best fighting game this gen, we said it was balanced, we said it's a great game. It wasn't us that started to tell you all that other stuff. It seems like you already made up your mind and said SFIV wasn't for you and started to defend your point saying things like Tekken is better and criticizing SFIV for being a hadouken spamming game that's imbalanced.You also implied that SFIV has no strategy from your relpy on the rock paper scissor explanation. So did you make this post to debate why SFIV is worse than your favorite games like Mortal Kombat or Tekken or did you really want us to recommend SFIV to you?Since you said those negative things about SFIV, we're just defending the game.
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